Tuesday, December 2, 2008

Drig dasa article by Sri Narasimha, An Observation

Om Namah Sivaya
Namaste all,

There has been a lot of discussion regarding Drig Dasa of Parasara article by Sri Narasimha. In the following line I would like to bring forth how Drig dasa varies according to some other scholars. But, I will stick to Jaimini Sutras only. First, I include the notes I wrote regarding Narasimha article some time back and then explain the other method. I request the readers to go through it and bring forth the truth. The padakrama order to be followed in this Drig dasa varies if we take consideration of two ensuing sutras after the Drig dasa adhikara sutra.

Reconciling Narasimha's Version with Jaimini
I am really surprised by the fact that Narasimha could arrive to the meaning of Trikuta padakrama regarding Drig dasa by referring to Parasara Hora. Most of the students are confused by the word Trikuta Padakrama vide the sutra “ Kujaadi Trikuta Pada kramena Drig dasa”, since trikuta padakrama is also used in Manduka dasa. So, some scholars interpreted trikuta padakrama in Drig dasa as 1,5,9 houses from 9th house. I would like to explain this padakrama referring to only Jaimini Sutras in line with Jaimini methods.

In Jaimini methods, we have a number of ways of reckoning the dasa sequences advocated by Vriddha Karikas. I am giving some of them below.

1. Prakriti Chakra padakrama --> where in reckoning will be done zodiacal for odd signs and anti-zodiacal for even sign. Please remember here that the nature is odd or even not the Vishama pada or Sama pada.

2. Vikriti Chakra Pada karma --> where in reckoning will be done anti - zodiacal for odd signs and zodiacal for even sign. Please remember here that the nature is odd or even not the Vishama pada or Sama pada.

3. Udaya charka padakrama --> always zodiacal for both natures of signs.

Readers can now understand the very purpose of Jaimini mentioning the sutra “Na Kwachit” after mentioning the sutras “Prachee vrittir Vishameshu”, “Para Vrittyottareshu”. I don’t really understand why Vishama pada and Samapada reckoning is used in only Chara dasa by Neelakantha.

Now I am giving below the ensuing sutras after the “Kujaadi Trikuta ….”. Though sage names it as Trikuta Padakrama, for the sake of clarity, temporarily I call it Drig dasa padakrama. Since it is drig dasa the dasa signs will be the signs aspected by 9th, 10th and 11th house from Lagna.

This padakrama is explained below by considering the following two sutras belongs to Drig dasa.

Sutra: Matri Dharmayoh Saamanyam Vipareetam OjaKutayoh
Sutra: Yadhah Samanyam Yugme.

I am now venturing to reconcile with Parasara slokas given by Narasimha.

Using Katapayadi varga, Matri --> Sign Leo, Dharma --> Sign Aquarius.

Sage Jaimini States that for the above two signs the drig padakrama is Samanyam i.e according to Prakriti charka. Since, these two signs are odd signs, the reckoning will be zodiacal even though they belong to Samapada group. That’s the precise reason why Jaimini instructs “Saamanyam”.

For Ojapada signs excepting dual signs, the reckoning will be according to Vikriti chakra.
For remaining Samapada signs excepting dual signs, the reckoning will be according to Prakriti chakra.
For Dual signs, the reckoning will be according to Prakriti charka vide sutra “Yadhah Saamanyam Yugme”.

Now I am tabulating the reckoning of successive signs from 9th house for each sign below.

So, if 9th house happens to be
Aries, Odd and Ojapada sign, vikriti charka padakrama. Since it is odd sign vikriti chakra pada krama means reckoning Anti Zodiacally.

Taurus, Even and Ojapada sign, Vikriti charka padakrama, since it is even sign vikriti chakra pada krama means reckoning zodiacally.

Gemini, Odd and Ojapada sign, Prakriti charka padakrama means count zodiacally

Cancer, Even and Samapada sign, Prakriti chakra, counting Anti Zodiacal

Leo, Prakriti chakra (Special rule), counting zodiacally

Virgo, Even , Samapada, Prakriti chakra, counting anti-zodiacally

Libra, odd, Ojapada, Vikriti chakra, counting anti zodiacally

Scorpio, even, Ojapada, Vikriti chakra, counting zodiacally

Sagittarius, odd, Ojapada, Prakriti chakra, counting zodiacally

Capricorn, Even, Samapada, Vikriti chakra, counting anti zodiacally

Aquarius, Prakriti chakra (Special rule), counting zodiacally

Pisces, Even, Samapada , Prakriti chakra, counting Anti Zodiacally

Hence, it can be deduced that Sage Jaimini also endorsed the way Sri Narasimha interpreted the reckoning of dasa signs in Drig dasa using this peculiar Drig dasa Trikuta pada krama. In fact, there will be only three signs aspected by any rasi and since Drig dasa name itself shows that it is based on aspects. Hence name Trikuta padakrama is also justified.

I must admit that this Pada krama order idea was learnt from the Telugu commentary of Jaimini Sutras by Sri Kambhampati Rama Gopala Murthy.

Drig dasa By Jaimini Scholar Sri Iranganti Rangacharya:

Now, I will explain the Drig dasa interpretation by Sri Rangacharya according to his Jaimini Sutramritam.

Drig dasa starts fro the 9th sign from lagna and the progression will be the trines from the start dasa sign. After the first trine then the trine from the 2nd house from start dasa sign follows. For example if the Asc is Aries, then the dasa signs are Sg, Ar, Le, Cp, Ta, Vi, Aq, Ge, Li, Pi, Cn, Sc. So here there no concept like aspecting signs.

Sri Rangacharya interprets the ensuing “Matri Dharmayoh” sutras in a different context. He takes these two sutras to prove that calculation of dasa years is always according to Prakriti chakra.

Sutra: Matri Dharmayoh Saamanyam Vipareetam Ojakutayoh

Sutra: Yadhah Samanyam Yugme.

The first sutra above speaks of Oja Kuta, so it can be understood that Sage Jaimini is speaking about the Ojakuta (Vishama Pada) and Yugmas Kuta (Sma pada) signs.

Matri, Leo and Dharma, sign Aquarius. For these two sign though they are Samapada signs the counting of dasa years will be Saamanyam (According to Prakriti Chakra though Samapada Signs).

The signs, which are in Vishama Pada are Taurus and Scorpio. So for these two signs the counting will be vipareetam (Accroding to Prakriti chakra though Vishama Pada signs).

The Sage instructs us to use prakriti chakra for other even signs vide the adhikara sutra “ Yadha Saamanyam Yugme”.

For remaining odd signs, it can be understood implied that counting will be according to Praktiti chakra.

Hence, from the above line it can be understood that Sage instructs us to use Prakriti chakra for counting dasa years for every rasi dasa.

Well, I have given two versions of interpretation of ensuing sutras after the Drig dasa adhikara sutra. One interpretation supports the Drig dasa version given by Sri Narasimha. The other version proves that dasa year’s count shall be according to Prakriti chakra. It is for the learned scholars to evaluate and bring forth the true upadesa that Sage shines upon us. But, with in my limited understanding I tend to support the later version, since Sage never calls Dual signs as Yugma rasi, hence the first version may not be His upadesa.

Now, We must understand “Why Sage Calls it Drig Dasa?” Some scholars tend to understand it as aspecting signs dasa. But, we must understand that in Jaimini Sasthra, there is a very important concept called Argala and its real usage has been a secret. Yes, as Sanjay Ji always puts it Argala is a very advanced concept and its real usage lies in delineating the Raja Yogas in the horoscope. This argala is not simple that 2nd, 4th, 11th rasis form Argala on a sign, but much more to it.

So, in my humble view, Argala raja yogas can be timed with this wonderful Drig Dasa. In addition, there are concepts called Sign Arudha and Aspect Arudha, which find extensive application in Drig Dasa. Readers will do well to read the article by Sri Rangacharya published in Saptharshi Astrology Vol 3 to understand Sign Arudha.

I look forward for the readers take on this.

Let the knowledge come from everywhere.

Warm regards,


ast said...

Dear Shanmukha

Can you kindly list the names of the books written by your beloved Guruji Sti IRangati Rangacharya and the names of publishers of the book.

It would be great if you can suggest where it will be available in cities like Chennai .Otherwise i will find them.

Shanmukha said...

Dear Ast,

Sri Rangacharya wrote the following books on Jaimni Astrology apart from other books on Vishishtadvaita philosophy and Bhagavat Gita.

1. Jaimini Sutramritam (Both English and Sanskrit commenatry)- Not available now.

2. Jaimini Sutramriam (English commentary only)

Available from Sagar Publications.

3. A manual of Jaimini Astrology - English by Sagar Publications.

4. Muhurtha Sindhu - Published by Guruji Himself, can be obtained from Kadambi Book House, Secunderabad.

These are books on Astrology presently available.

There are some other books on Philosophy.


ast said...

Dear Shanmukha

Thanks for replying and listing the books

There is a book called "Jaimini Sutramirtham" reprint 2003 available in Sagarpublications.com .I hope it is english commentary if i am not wrong.I have mailed the website to find out how i can buy that

I also saw "A manual of JAimini Astrology" listed in their website and asked them to let me know how i can buy them

Thanks for helping me out

Shanmukha said...

Dear Ast,

Well the books mentioned are authored by Sri Rangacharya.

Jaimini Sutramritam is reprint of original Sanskrit and english commnentary from which Sagar Publications unfortunatey removed the Sanskrit Part. IMHO, they removed the Atma. Yet, since Jaimini Sutramritam original version is out of print, we can still benefit from English Translation.

All the best


ast said...

Dear Shanmukha

Thanks for the info.I have ordered the english version.expecting it soon.

ast said...

Dear shanmukha

I bought the book "jaimini sutramirtham" today and i am reading it.It is an excellent writeup.

Hovewer i could not get "A manual on Jaimini astrology " as it was out of stock

I have some doubtsregarding parameters used in this book.

Shri Irangati Sir has used Kevala and yogada concept and included lagna,navamsa lagna and drekkana lagna for determining them whereas articles in internet,articles and preachings from SJC take into consideration Hora lagna and Ghatika lagna to determine kevala and yogada.

By any chance where you puzzled by this difference and tried to find out where in our classics mention about yogada and kevala are given.Though i do not doubt the authenticity of Shri Irangati Sir still i am curious to know as there is a lot of ambiguity i must say between both schools of thought which will change the predictions a whole lot.

Since you have met Sir couple of times,i would like to ask whether he recommends us to use Krishna Mishra navamsa first while dealing with concepts like Karakamsa.determining yogada and predicting with Chara dasha(RB-NS ) as i do understand he does not asks us to discard usage of parasara navamsha.

In your personal experience which seems to work well or which navamsa do u use primarily for ur research and study?please share your views.

Thanks and regards


Shanmukha said...

Dear Vivek,
Though explicitly not mentioned by him, planet aspecting HL and GL is Yogada. Well, in Jaimini system, we have different system of HL and GL calculation.

He advised me to use Krishna Mishra Navamsa not ignoring Parasara.

ast said...

Dear shanmukha

Thanks for sharing your thoughts about Yogada and the recommended navamsa


dear shanmukha ji , i am interested in learning jaimini . i started learning it but need proper guidance and a guru . can u help me as a guide/guru i am currently based in dubai and working with a bank here .

name prabhat , dob 9thmay1973 time 4:52 am place chhibramau.

my email id prabhat.shcil@gmail.com

warm regards


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